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- NASA.txt - This document is a compilation of material relating
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- ^^^^^^^^ to NASA and sightings by astronauts of UFO's. The
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- material contained herein is not of an original nature
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- but can be found in the sources listed at the end of
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- the text. There has been much discussion on astronaut
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- sightings in the echos. To help stimulate this and get
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- us all up to speed on the topic I thought it would be
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- informative to collect all the available material into
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- one file. I have attempted to collect the facts and present
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- the opinions both pro and con conserning each incident.
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- I have only listed sources for which I have actual
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- copies in my possession. If you know of other sources
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- not listed here which specifically relate to NASA
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- encounters, please let me know. You assistance is
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- appreciated.
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- If you have further information not included here let me know.
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- Grudge 13 & the DULCE PAPERS are of great interest to me. If
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- you have any information to share on these topics I would be
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- most interested in corresponding with you. I can be reached
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- via the UFONET BBS network.
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- Harvey S. Stewart (12/05/89)
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- If you were on a mission to study the inhabitants of the planet we
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- call earth would you not be interested in the primitive attempts at
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- early space travel. It seems that UFO's have been especially
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- interested in following our space program. Just what do our astronauts
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- know that they aren't talking about? What did we find when we went to
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- the moon? The astronauts that returned from the moon seemed to be
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- profoundly changed by the experience. Why did we seemingly abandon
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- our space program following the lunar landings? Why did the Russians
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- not even attempt to go to the moon? Was being second so bad or were they
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- warned away from that goal. These are all profound questions which I
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- cannot attempt to answer. But let's examine the evidence that has been
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- collected and then each come to our own conclusions.
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- MERCURY 7 May 24 1962 (Scott Carpenter)
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- A ufo was rumored to have been seen and photographed during this flight
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- He did in fact take a picture of a tracking ballon which was ejected
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- from the capsule. This picture which was enlarged and photographed
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- through a smeared window in the glare of sunlight has been misrepresented
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- as a UFO.
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- MERCURY 8 October 3, 1963 (Wally Schirra)
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- Rumored to have seen a UFO and coined the term "Santa Claus" as a
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- code word for UFO. He reported seeing glowing masses over the Indian
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- ocean which were in fact night time lightning clouds. These lights have
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- been taken out of context as being a UFO sighting.
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- MERCURY 9 May 16, 1963 (Gordon Cooper)
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- On his final orbit Cooper radioed Muchea tracking station near Perth
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- Australia that he was being approached by a greenish object moving
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- east to west. This is unusual in that it is the opposite direction
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- from most manmade orbits. More than 100 persons saw the object on
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- tracking gear. Following the mission newsmen were informed that they
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- would not be allowed to question Cooper on this aspect of the flight.
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- It is also reported that a voice transmission was picked up on a
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- special frequency which could not be correlated with any known language.
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- It should be noted that Cooper has publically denied having seen
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- any UFO in connection with this flight. He did confirm that he saw
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- the Aurora Australis which was multi-colored and may have been taken
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- by some as a UFO sighting.
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- GEMINI I April 1964 (unmanned)
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- During the first orbit of this unmanned spacecraft it was joined by
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- four apparently controlled objects. The tracking station observed
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- two objects take up station above Gemini I, with one behind and one
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- below. These relative positions were maintained for one orbit after
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- which they sped off into space.
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- GEMINI IV June 4, 1965 (James A. McDivitt, Edward White)
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- With White asleep McDivitt reports an unidentified object. He manages
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- to take some footage of the object on a movie camera that was mounted
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- inside the capsule. The object was first spotted over the Hawaiian Islands.
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- Later over the Caribbean both astronauts report seeing two more objects.
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- One of the movie frames was released to the press and has been reprinted
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- in many books including Frank Edward's book "Flying Saucers Serious
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- Business". The photo shows an egg shaped object with a comet like trail
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- or glow coming out of it. The movie camera was using 16mm Eastman
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- color film shooting at 6 frames per second. The object was yellow -
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- white in color. In the transcript that follows McDivitt is reporting
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- to the Capsule Communicator.
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- 29 40 45 C . . . Hawaii . . .
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- 29 52 09 CC Gemini 4, Guaymas CAP COM
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- 29 52 12 C Go ahead. Guaymas. Gemini 4.
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- 29 52 14 CC Roger. We've got you green, how are you doing up there?
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- 29 52 17 C Fine. I just saw something else up here with me, but
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- just as I was getting close enough to take a good
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- picture the sun got in the way and l lost it.
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- 29 52 26 CC Roger. We got some flight plan changes for you.
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- Want to stand by to copy?
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- 29 52 29 C Yes. Stand by and let me see if I can find this thing again.
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- 29 52 45 C . . . and there are a great number of thunderstorms
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- around at the present time. Lightning is actually
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- lighting up the interior of the spacecraft... activity ...
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- thunderstorms . . .
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- 29 53 35 C Okay. ,Go ahead. It doesn't look like I'm going to see him
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- again.
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- 29 57 09 CC That's affirm --- you still looking at the thing up there?
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- 29 57 12 C No I've lost it. It had big arms sticking out of it, it
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- looked like. I only had it for just a minute. I got a
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- couple of pictures with a movie camera and one with the
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- Hasselblad; but I was in free drift, before I could get
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- the control back I drifted and lost it.
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- 29 57 29 CC Good show.
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- McDivitt has publicly denied having seen a aliencraft and states that the
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- released picture was not the object that he saw. The released picture
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- was a light reflection off the copilot's window. McDivitt believes that
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- what he saw was a manmade satellite which was probably not acknowledged
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- for defence security reasons. Unlike many of the astronauts McDivitt
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- has been willing to speak about his incident with the public and
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- press.
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- GEMINI V August 21 - 29 1965 (Leroy Gordon Cooper, Charles Conrad)
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- 03 04 57 21 CC Gemini 5, Gemini 5, this is Houston. Over.
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- 03 04 57 26 C . . . Houston, Gemini 5.
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- 03 04 57 29 CC Roger, Gemini 5, this is Houston. Be advised that we
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- tracked another object with you on your pass across
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- the States. Range was 2 to 10,000 yards from the
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- spacecraft. You might look around and see if you can
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- see anything. Unfortunately, I can't tell you which
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- direction to look.
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- 03 04 57 53 C What time is this?
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- 03 04 57 57 CC Did you say what size or what time?
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- 03 04 58 00 C Time.
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- 03 04 58 02 CC Well, it seems to be going right along with you. So
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- we're tracking it right with you.
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- 03 04 58 13 C Roger.
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- 03 04 58 21 CC We're going to lose you here shortly but if you see
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- anything, why don't you let us know at the next station.
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- 03 04 58 27 C Okay.
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- 03 04 58 31 CC The radar return was approximately the same as yours
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- as far as magnitude.
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- 03 04 58 38 C Roger.
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- GEMINI VII December 4, 1965 (Frank Borman, James Lovell)
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- During this flight Borman describes what he calls a "bogey at ten
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- o'clock high" The object was slowly tumbling and was at first thought
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- to be their booster rocket. But this was ruled out when the astronauts
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- also saw the booster simultaneously with the bogey.
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- C Bogey at 10 o'clock high.
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- CC This is Houston. Say again 7.
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- C Said we have a bogey at 10 o'clock high.
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- CC Is that the booster or is that an actual sighting?
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- C We have several, looks like debris up here. Actual
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- sighting.
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- CC .... Estimate distance or size?
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- C We also have the booster in sight. . .
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- Lovell is reported to have taken some magnificent photographs of
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- two mushroom shaped UFO's on December 4. The pictures seem to show
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- the glow of a propulsion system on the underside. The pictures were
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- taken at a range of several hundred yards. Some believe this picture
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- to be a blatant forgery accomplished by airbrushing a picture of
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- light reflecting off the nose of the spacecraft.
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- GEMINI IX June 3, 1966 (Stafford, Cernan)
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- It is reported that the capsule was accompanied from takeoff by UFO's
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- seen from the ground as well as the capsule.
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- GEMINI X July 19, 1965 (Michael Collins, John Young)
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- During the flight the crew reported seeing five objects travelling
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- together in orbit.
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- GEMINI XI September 12, 1966 (Richard Gordon, Charles Conrad)
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- A long object was reportedly observed over Madagascar. NORAD indicated
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- that it was Soviet PROTON 3 but it turns out that that satellite would
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- have been over 350 miles away at the time of observation.(Bruce Maccabee)
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- Three pictures of the object were taken which enlarged have been widely
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- publicized. The pictures are fuzzy and dont look at all like what the
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- astronaughts described having seen with their eyesight.
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- GEMINI XII November 1966 (James Lovell, Edwin Aldrin)
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- On November 12 both astronauts are reported to have spotted 2 UFO's
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- approximately 1/2 mile from the spacecraft. They were observed for
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- some period of time and photographs were taken.
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- Apollo 8 Dec. 1968 (Frank Borman, James A. Lovell, William A. Anders)
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- During this flight as the command module emerged from behind the moon
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- Lovell transmits "We have been informed that Santa Claus does exist!".
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- As this occurred on christmas day 1968 it is deemed by many to have
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- been Lovell's sense of humor for the kiddies watching the broadcast.
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- Some speculate that it is the use of the code word originally employed
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- by Walter Schirra on the Mercury 8 flight. On Christmas eve Borman
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- and Lovell are reported to have seen a UFO.
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- It is reported that an unidentified language was picked up on one of
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- the NASA frequencies used during the mission.
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- Apollo 10 May 1969 (Thomas P. Stafford, John W. Young, Eugene E. Cernan)
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- UFO's were reportedly spotted during orbit around the moon and on the
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- homeward bound flight.
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- Apollo 11 July 1969 (Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins, Buzz Aldrin)
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- Supposedly two ufo's hovered overhead as Armstrong prepared to step
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- down the ladder of the LEM at the Sea of Tranquility. Aldrin is
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- reported to have taken several pictures of them. Modern People
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- magazine published what they claim to be some of these photographs
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- in their June 1975 issue. They claim to have gotten the pictures
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- from a Japanese source.
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- Thats interesting because I recall watching the broadcast of this
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- historic event on the Canadian network coverage. You know I seem to
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- recall them discussing at some point a light which kept appearing
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- while the astronauts were actually on the surface. I recall thinking
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- that it was really interesting and then it just seemed to be dropped.
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- I dont think that I am that senile yet . Do any of you reading this
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- have similar recollections. If so please let me know.
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- One explanation for the halo's seen around or near some of the Appollo
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- astronauts was that it was gases being vented from their backpacks.
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- I have one picture which was reported to be something unusual
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- in close proximity to one of the astronauts. It would clearly
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- appear to be coming from the backpack when observed closely.
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- Timothy Good writes that HAM radio operators receiving the VHF signals
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- directly picked up the following message which was screened by NASA from the
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- public.
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- Mission Control: What's there? Mission Control calling Apollo 11.
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- Apollo 11: These babies are huge, sir ... enormous....Oh,
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- God, you wouldn't believe it! I'm telling you there
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- are other space craft out there... lined up on the
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- far side of the crater edge... they're on the moon
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- watching us.
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- Good uses "SAGA UFO SPECIAL #3" as a source for this quote.
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- The following is an excerpt from the transcript of the Apollo 11 technical
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- debriefing.
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- Aldrin: The first unusual thing that we saw I guess was one day out
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- or something pretty close to the moon. It had a sizeable
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- dimension to it, so we put the monocular on it.
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- Collins How'd we see this thing? Did we just look out the window
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- and there it was.
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- Aldrin Yes, and we weren't sure but what it might be the S-IVB. We
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- called the ground and were told the S-IVB was 6,000 miles
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- away. We had a problem with the high gain about this time,
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- didn't we?
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- Collins There was something. We felt a bump or maybe I just imagined
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- it.
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- Armstrong He was wondering whether the MESA had come off.
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- Collins I don't guess we felt anything.
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- Aldrin Of course, we were seeing all sorts of little objects going
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- by at the various dumps and then we happened to see this one
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- brighter object going by. We couldn't think of anything else
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- it could be other than the S-IVB. We looked at it through the
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- monocular and it seemed to have a bit of an L shape to it.
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- Armstrong Like an open suitcase.
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- Aldrin We were in PTC at the time so each of us had a chance to take
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- a look at this and it certainly seemed to be within our
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- vicinity and of a very sizeable dimension.
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- Armstrong We should say it was right at the limit of the resolution of
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- the eye. It was very difficult to tell what shape it was.
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- And there was no way to tell the size without knowing the
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- range or the range without knowing the size.
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- Aldrin So then I got down in the LEM and started looking for it in
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- the optics. We were grossly misled because with the sextant
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- off focus what we saw appeared to be a cylinder.
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- Armstrong Or really two rings.
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- Aldrin Yes.
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- Armstrong Two rings. Two connected rings.
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- Aldrin Yes.
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- Collins No, it looked like a hollow cylinder to me. It didn't look
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- like two connected rings. You could see this thing tumbling
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- and, when it came around end-on, you could look right down
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- in it's guts. It was a hollow cylinder. But then you could
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- change the focus on the sextant and it would be replaced by
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- this open book shape. It was really weird.
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- Aldrin I guess there's not too much more to say about it other than
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- it wasn't a cylinder.
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- Collins It was during the period when we thought it was a cylinder
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- that we inquired about the S-IVB and we'd almost convinced
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- ourselves that's what it had to be. But we don't have any
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- more conclusions than that really. The fact that we didn't
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- see it much past this one period --- we really don't have
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- a conclusion as to what it might have been, how big it was,
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- or how far away it was. It was something that wasn't part of
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- the urine dump, we're pretty sure of that.
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- In his book "RETURN TO EARTH" Colonel Edwin E. Aldrin Jr. writes the
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- following on pages 223-224. I quote directly.
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- In the middle of one evening, Houston time, I found myself idly
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- staring out the window of the Columbia and saw something that
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- looked a bit unusual. It appeared brighter than any star and not
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- quite the pinpoints of light that stars are. I pointed this out to
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- Mike and Neil, and the three of us were beset with curiosity. With
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- the help of the monocular we guessed that whatever it was, it was
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- only a hundred or so miles away. Looking at it through our sextant
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- we found it occasionaly formed a cylinder, but when the sextant's
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- focus was adjusted it had a sort of illuminated "L" look to it. It
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- had a shape of some sort -- we all agreed on that -- but exactly
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- what it was we couldnt pin down. We asked Houston some casual
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- questions: "How far away is the Saturn third stage?" The response
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- was in the vicinity of six thousand miles. That wasn't it.
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- It could possibly have been one of the panels of the Saturn third
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- stage which fly off to expose the LM and cannot be traced from earth.
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- We could see it for about forty-five seconds at a time as the ship
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- rotated, and we watched it on and off for about an hour. We debated
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- whether or not to tell the ground we had spotted something, and
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- decided against it. Our reason was simple: The UFO people would
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- descend on the message in hordes, setting off another rash of UFO
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- spottings back on earth. We concluded it was most likely on of the
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- panels. Its course appeared in no way to conflict with ours, and it
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- presented no danger. We dropped the matter there.
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- In his book "Carrying The Fire" astronaut Michael Collins the command
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- module pilot makes no mention of this incident.
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- Apollo 12 November 14, 1969 (Conrad, Gordon, Bean)
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- On day out on the earth moon leg of the trip the astronauts radioed
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- Mission Control that two flashing lights had appeared off the bow .
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- of their capsule. After rejecting the possibility that the objects
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- could be spinning pieces of the Apollo booster rocket the capcom
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- suggested that they could be the jettisoned protective panels. One
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- of the astronauts replied " Gee that could be, but one of those
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- lights just shot out of here at tremendous speed ".
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- James Oberg writes concerning this the following explaination
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- which certainly sounds reasonable.
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- Take the Apollo 12 case. In this famous incident the initial
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- reports are indeed true, as the astronauts jokingly asked the
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- earth about some flashing lights. When told that they were
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- probably tumbling pieces of space debris (which do in fact
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- accompany the Apollo in the vacuum of space on the way to
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- the moon), the crew accepted this and began discussing how
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- far away they would be. When asked how fast the pieces had
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- broken off the rocket the previous day, the astronauts replied
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- that when they had turned their Apollo around some pieces were
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- flying off at a very fast velocity. That had been the day
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- before! The flashing lights out the window didn't go anywhere
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- but gradually faded out as the day went by. What happened
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- was that UFO researchers ( I use the term loosely) had
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- simply misunderstood the space jargon and had completely
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- missed the gist of the conversation from Apollo, and had
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- then (probably quite honestly, with good intentions and
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- closed minds) reworded the phrases to make them "clearer"
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- to the general public. In fact they had totally altered
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- the meaning.
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- In this incident it should be trivial to get to the root of
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- the matter. All we need is the tape of the actual conversation
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- or the true unaltered transcript. We could then see if Olberg is
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- right on the money or not.
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- Apollo 13 May 1969 (Thomas P. Stafford, John W. Young, Eugene E. Cernan)
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- There has been a lot of speculation that the ill fated Apollo 13
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- Mission was carrying a small nuclear explosive device for the purpose
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- of seismic testing of the moon. The story goes that the aliens fearing
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- damage to their lunar bases caused the accident that ultimately
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- caused the aborting of the mission.
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- Apollo 17 December 7-19, 1972 (Cernan, Evans, Schmitt)
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- Reported to have seen UFO's near earth, on route and around the moon.
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- SPACE SHUTTLE DISCOVERY March 1989
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- 03/14/89 6:42 EST
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- "Uh Houston, this is Discovery. We still have the alien spacecraft
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- under (observance)????" (note last word difficult to make out on
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- tape)
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- The previous statement was recorded by Baltimore resident Donald
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- Ratsch (MUFON member) from a HAM radio rebroadcast between the
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- space shuttle Discovery and Houston ground control. The HAM broadcast
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- was direct from the shuttle without going through the delayed filter
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- used on the officail NASA public feed. The NASA select audio channel
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- did not contain this one way broadcast from the shuttle to ground
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- control. The HAM station making the rebroadcast was WA3NAN Goddard
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- Amatuer Radio Club in Greenbelt, MD transmitting on 147.450 MHZ.
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- Preliminary analysis shows that the voice could be either Michael
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- Coats (Commander) or John E. Blaha (pilot). The recording was sent
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- for further expert voice analysis the results of which are unknown
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- at this time to the author.
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- Gordon Cooper
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- -------------
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- Gordon Cooper was one of the best trained US astronauts
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- having flown on Mercury 9 and Gemini 5. Yet he was not selected to fly
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- an Apollo mission. It is speculated that Cooper did not play the game
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- correctly when it comes to the UFO situation. It is interesting that
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- Cooper has developed an interest in ancient civilizations and in fact
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- participated in an expedition to South American that discovered the
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- remnants of a very old and advanced civilization dating back over 5000
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- years. One is tempted to ask why the sudden interest on the part of a
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- former astronaut in "ancient astronaut" type endevours.
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-
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- A fellow officer once said of Cooper. "We all knew where Gordon
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- was going to end up in ten years. He was going to be Chairman of
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- The Joint Chiefs of Staff. (what happened that he didn't?)
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-
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- In July 1960 Cooper was interviewed by Yvonne S. Durfield and had
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- this to say about UFO's. "I don't take UFO's seriously. I would be
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- very skeptical." In March 1978 Cooper stated to the National Enquirer
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- "UFO's are definately real" It is interesting that his two flights
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- into space occurred between the dates of the two interviews. Cooper
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- went on to make a written statement to the United Nations supporting
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- Grenada's Prime Minister Eric Gairy proposal that the UN establish
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- a UFO agency.(1979?)
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- In his book MJ12 & THE RIDDLE OF HANGER 18 Beckley quotes Cooper
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- as saying "UFO's are, I believe, very likely travellers from some
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- other planet; visitors from some other world that is hundreds of
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- thousands of years more advanced than we are, and they certainly
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- have a far more efficient sytem of propulsion than we have."
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-
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- During an interview on the Merv Griffin Show, Merv asked the
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- following of Gordon Cooper. "There is a story going around, Gordon,
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- that a spaceship did land in middle America and there were occupants,
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- and members of our government were able to keep one of the occupants
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- alive for some period of time. They've seen the metal of the aircraft
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- and know what the people look like -- is that a credible story?
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- To everyones surprise Cooper answers with a straight face
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- "I think it's fairly credible. I would like to see the time when all
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- qualified people could really work together to properly investigate
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- these stories and either refute or prove them." Later the next
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- morning Lee Spiegel a UFO researcher and aquaintance of Cooper talked
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- to Cooper on the phone. During this conversation Cooper admitted that
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- he could have revealed further information on the Merv Griffin Show
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- but did not because he did not want to raise too many official
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- eyebrows.
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- Why Did it End So Quicky ?
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- The solar system held no limits, we were bound for the
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- stars. The plaque read "HERE MEN FROM THE PLANET EARTH SET FOOT
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- UPON THE MOON ...... WE CAME IN PEACE FOR ALL MANKIND" We said that
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- this was "One small step for a man....one giant leap for mankind"
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- Then shortly thereafter it all came to a screeching halt. What had
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- been a burning ambition was now just a smoldering ember. Had we
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- shot the whole wad on one quick try. Why did not only the US but also
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- the Soviet Union cancel its ambitious moon plans. Why did both
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- nations suddenly limit themselves to relatively low orbit missions.
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- Did Apollo find something totally unexpected out there that made us
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- change our grand plans ?
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- SOURCES
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- Aldrin, Edwin RETURN TO EARTH, Random House, 1973
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- Beckley, Timothy MJ-12 AND THE RIDDLE OF HAMGER 18,Inner Light, 1989
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- Chatelaine, Maurice OUR ANCESTORS CAME FROM OUTER SPACE, Dell, 1979
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- Collins, Michael CARRYING THE FIRE, Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 1974
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- Edward's, Frank FLYING SAUCERS SERIOUS BUSINESS, Bantam Books, 1966
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